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[Deathlike]

Title says it all.

I'm not even sure when this happened, but the free ride is over and the Lolcust got it.

RIP Lolcust deal.

Edited by Deathlike, 03 June 2015 - 02:43 PM.

[Monkey Lover]

Russ said the locusts was costing them money in fees.

[Spheroid]

It certainly was a good deal for a bad mech. In order to get it now with bay will cost 885 MC. Which is terrible since the Pirate's Bane was only slightly more than that on sale.

The end of the Locust sale is not a great loss. What is bothersome however is the failure to notify the public that the May bonus MC sale was ending. That is just a bad business practice, I was using those figures to plan out my mechbay purchases for the summer.

Edited by Spheroid, 03 June 2015 - 03:03 PM.

[Escef]

Spheroid, on 03 June 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

What is bothersome however is the failure to notify the public that the May bonus MC sale was ending.

I know, who would have thought that the MAY sale would end at the beginning of JUNE?

[Bishop Steiner]

Monkey Lover, on 03 June 2015 - 02:44 PM, said:

Russ said the locusts was costing them money in fees.

short sighted view. All good companies keep "loss leaders" out there, knowing it draws customers many of whom eventually invest in profitable things. And it creates good will to have cheap product available.

[Spheroid]

@Bishop: That is my descriptor, theirs was far more nebulous. I guess they are covered since TBD =/= TBA.

Edited by Spheroid, 03 June 2015 - 04:01 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

>the locusts was costing them money in fees

what
how is it? it's their shop, they can generate as many codes as they want and i'm sure their bank don't charge them 2$ per each depositing

Edited by bad arcade kitty, 03 June 2015 - 04:01 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Spheroid, on 03 June 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

@Bishop: That is my descriptor, theirs was far more nebulous. TBA means TBA not change and fail to post notice.

um...I think you are talking to the wrong person.

bad arcade kitty, on 03 June 2015 - 04:01 PM, said:

>the locusts was costing them money in fees

what
how is it? it's their shop, they can generate as many codes as they want and i'm sure their bank don't charge them 2$ per each depositing

Bank fees, credit card fees, the various third merchant marketers all charge fees.

[bad arcade kitty]

but bank charges for transferring money, not for receiving them... i dunno about karmakoins, paypal etc stupid crap

[Deathlike]

Monkey Lover, on 03 June 2015 - 02:44 PM, said:

Russ said the locusts was costing them money in fees.

I didn't even see an official word on that that... I'm sure that answer would be found on twitter, but I'm not itching to find out.

Spheroid, on 03 June 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

It certainly was a good deal for a bad mech. In order to get it now with bay will cost 885 MC. Which is terrible since the Pirate's Bane was only slightly more than that on sale.

The end of the Locust sale is not a great loss. What is bothersome however is the failure to notify the public that the May bonus MC sale was ending. That is just a bad business practice, I was using those figures to plan out my mechbay purchases for the summer.

The fact that there was an MC sale going on (I was not even aware)... well... it is what it is when it comes to communication I guess.

[Xetelian]

Bishop Steiner, on 03 June 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

um...I think you are talking to the wrong person.


Bank fees, credit card fees, the various third merchant marketers all charge fees.

Things that usually cut into profits, I highly doubt they could really lose money selling digital goods.

[Bishop Steiner]

Xetelian, on 03 June 2015 - 04:20 PM, said:

Things that usually cut into profits, I highly doubt they could really lose money selling digital goods.

You sell a digital good for 2 dollars, pay 3 dollars in various third party transaction fees, you lose money, digital or not.

[bad arcade kitty]

i dunno, if i, say say you my cc number and ask you to send money there, i won't pay nothing at all, you will pay some fee

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 03 June 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

You sell a digital good for 2 dollars, pay 3 dollars in various third party transaction fees, you lose money, digital or not.

I doubt it would be $3 or so, but... there is a reason why even restaurants that have credit card transactions require a $10 order or so... because of said fees.

For something like a local store (say a CVS or a supermarket chain).. they usually negate the cheap fees for like a $1 transaction through usually bigger transactions in general (larger purchases).

Like, I remember someone offered a large sum of Lolcusts for free, and not being able to buy them all in one big transaction probably costs PGI money through a cost/benefit analysis. That in part is PGI's fault. One transaction instead of a multiple series of transactions would help... and perhaps if it were bought as a collection of stuff, it would be better for PGI.

For instance, let's say you wanted to buy Clan Wave 3 and Resistance Pack 2. The current PGI system is only set up to make one transaction at a time. If PGI's "store" were able to combine multiple transactions as one (like, buying multiple things, like different gifts, and packs AT THE SAME TIME), this would actually be cheaper for PGI (though it may be a more difficult nightmare on a support level - assuming it is designed and handled properly).

Of course, that would make too much sense right?

[Bront]

Deathlike, on 03 June 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

I didn't even see an official word on that that... I'm sure that answer would be found on twitter, but I'm not itching to find out.

Here's the conversation.

https://twitter.com/...918485697294336

[CycKath]

Really just need to have a straight up Mech Bay pack in the gift shop.

[Bishop Steiner]

Deathlike, on 03 June 2015 - 04:53 PM, said:

I doubt it would be $3 or so, but... there is a reason why even restaurants that have credit card transactions require a $10 order or so... because of said fees.

For something like a local store (say a CVS or a supermarket chain).. they usually negate the cheap fees for like a $1 transaction through usually bigger transactions in general (larger purchases).

Like, I remember someone offered a large sum of Lolcusts for free, and not being able to buy them all in one big transaction probably costs PGI money through a cost/benefit analysis. That in part is PGI's fault. One transaction instead of a multiple series of transactions would help... and perhaps if it were bought as a collection of stuff, it would be better for PGI.

For instance, let's say you wanted to buy Clan Wave 3 and Resistance Pack 2. The current PGI system is only set up to make one transaction at a time. If PGI's "store" were able to combine multiple transactions as one (like, buying multiple things, like different gifts, and packs AT THE SAME TIME), this would actually be cheaper for PGI (though it may be a more difficult nightmare on a support level - assuming it is designed and handled properly).

Of course, that would make too much sense right?

not stating that is the fee. Simply making an example.

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 03 June 2015 - 05:18 PM, said:

not stating that is the fee. Simply making an example.

I got the jist, but you'd think you'd want a fee based off a commission instead of a fixed value...

Still, they could've improved the system to favor buying say multiple Lolcusts (say 5 or 10 of them), and that would probably affect PGI's cut in a more positive way.

[Bront]

CycKath, on 03 June 2015 - 04:56 PM, said:

Really just need to have a straight up Mech Bay pack in the gift shop.

He said they were looking into it durring that conversation.

[Nightmare1]

Good thing I still have one more Locust code!